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« on: February 13, 2007, 10:10:11 AM »

What do you think the new requirement beginning next year for 6th grade school girls in Texas, to get the HPV vaccine?  HPV for those who do not know is the Human Papilloma Virus which is an STD that can cause cervical, vulvar, and vaginal cancers and genital warts inn women.  They are hopeful this new vaccine will prevent the spread of cervical cancers and believe that it can stop up to 4000 deaths from the cancer a year.  the only problem is, the government just approved this vaccine back in June of 06.  This can a good thing for women, but at the same time it can be devistating.  There are several different strands of HPV out there and the vaccine does not protect against all strands.  It is also a new drug.  Not everyone will react the same way the test rats did over a long course of time.  Every person is different. 
Not to mention, what kind of society have we become that girls as young as 11 years old are now beginning to have sex, and a vaccine to try and prevent one STD is now being forced on them or no school?  I know that many kids have started sexual activity early, but it has gotten this bad that a vaccine is now required.  What about boys.  They help spread HPV as well.  Though men can not get cancer from the virus, they can still spread the virus thus, infecting a female who many become one of the lucky ones to get the cancer. 
What are your thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2007, 11:49:09 AM »

There are probably two main things at work here:
  • The Texas Legislature is Retarded.  Don't believe me?  Well, until about 2000 or so it was legal to hand out the death penalty to the mentally-challenged in Texas, and not to mention they're like, one of the states with the highest use of capital punishment.
  • Cancer is the archenemy of all modern doctors.  Detecting it can be tricky in some cases, it's most certainly fatal to miss a diagnosis, and lastly the treatment for it is often worse than the disease until it reaches a certain point.

This comes together to form a unique situation, wherein doctors press upon stupid politicians to attempt to kill off one of their most-hated enemies.  Anyway, that aside, I think it's a perfectly fine practice and, in fact, after let's say 20 years I'd recommend it as a standard practice everywhere.  Why?  Sex happens, that's why (and cancer does too, and it sucks).  Maybe the situation is unideal, the kid gets molested by someone carrying the virus; maybe she's just horny, who knows.  The point is, sex is a part of being human and certainly as much as we'd like to blind ourselves to it, kids do have sex.  This is just an added protection, something to keep this eventuality safer--I mean, would you, as President Bush did, have the CDC cut all funding to sex-ed. programs that advocate the use of condoms over abstinence because the implication is that, if you teach them how to use condoms they'll use them (have sex) whereas, if you teach them not to have sex, they won't (which, in fact, as many studies have shown, is not just false, but inversely true--it causes people to have sex)?

Moreover, being an STD, and a common one, this becomes a matter of public safety, so it only makes perfect sense that it would be a required school vaccination--because one is safeguarding the public's health by doing so, just as one is required to get their child vaccinated for Meningitis, get their child test for TB, etc.  See, HPV is somewhat unique in that, many STDs cannot be inoculated against and this one can.

Finally, in terms of drug-safety...well, they're Texans, we can afford to lose a few to save the many.  Did I say that aloud; did they hear me?  In all seriousness, these things do get tested on humans and there are some long-term tests, but to be entirely honest, the FDA is not what you would call trustworthy.  Furthermore, whether they acknowledge it or not, scientists and doctors can make all the noise they want about ethical standards, policies, and treatment, but most of the time, the most valuable data is that which is actually collected unscrupulously or extracted from catastrophe.  With Cancer, there are Clinical Trials which essentially is human experimentation on a person whom you know to be dying at a reliable-enough rate.  But with that out of the way, because of the mechanism behind inoculation, vaccines tend to be, for the most part, safe.  It's not a drug that is altering the long- or even short-term chemical state of the body, it's some part of a virus that identifies itself to the immune system, enabling it to efficiently handle infection.
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2009, 04:29:35 AM »

WASHINGTON Reuters Jun 08 - The first vaccine to prevent cervical cancer won U.S. approval on Thursday when health officials cleared vaccine to block human papillomavirus infection.

Public health experts called Merck & Co. Incs Gardasil vaccine a major advance against a disease that kills about 300,000 women worldwide annually.

"This vaccine is a significant advance in the protection of womens health in that it strikes at the infections that are the root cause of many cervical cancers," acting Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Andrew von Eschenbach said.

Given in three doses over 6 months, Gardasil targets four HPV types believed to cause more than 70 of cervical cancer cases and 90 of genital warts. The vaccine was approved for use in girls and women ages 9 to 26, Merck said.

The catalog price for Gardasil will be 120 per dose, the company said.

The approval puts Merck ahead of GlaxoSmithKline Plc, which is developing its own HPV vaccine called Cervarix and plans to apply for U.S. clearance this year.
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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2009, 09:34:12 AM »

The title of the thread states be forced for a vaccine.

Forced treatment is imposed in the USA only for acute danger of death or permanent injury.  There is no force imposed for vaccines that would imminently save thousands of lives.

Add the issue of forced profits and it is even more complicated.

I pray we protect our children from forced exposure to HPV and its vaccine until they reach the age of reason.
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2009, 03:03:12 PM »

I dont think anyone should be forced to receive HPV vaccine, however as an old RN who has worked in surgery for years, I think everyone needs to be educated about HPV in plain English. The first case of venereal warts I saw was a 15 year old girl pregnant with twins. It was in the 70s.  She was brought in to have them burned off her perineal and peri-anal area. I have never seen such masses of warts in my life. You could not see her vaginal opening or anus. There were so many. I dont know she urinated or defecated. The Dr. burned some off, but he didnt make a dent in them. My daughter has HPV and has had numerous treatments for it. She is now pregnant and goes for an ultra-sound weekly to check her cervix. Prior to getting pregnant, she felt a lump in her vagina after a clean pap, had it biopsied and it was cancer -in-situ. She is 7 months pregnant now and has felt another lump. Seems its multifocal. When the baby is born, this lump will be biopsied also. Girls who have HPV need to do a vaginal check just like you do a monthly breast check. The doctor needs to check the vaginal wall thoroughly when he/she does a pap smear. I have seem areas of mens bodies look like Swiss Cheese after having papillomas burned off. Theyre not always just on the penis.  Oral sex? Ask your ENT guy. I think Ive made my point. HPV can be devastating It has been in my familys life.
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